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In Razz, I brought in with a King (8-5 in the hole) and a 7 completes. Call, re-raise or fold?
Heads-up, PokerToast's limit Razz solver folds with 8-5 under a King when a 7 completes against its bring-in 60% of the time, and calls 35%.
The spot
- Game: heads-up limit Razz, 3rd street.
- You: (8♠ 5♦) K♣ (down cards in brackets): 8-5 in the hole and a King showing: two mediocre low cards and a brick; you brought in.
- Your opponent: shows a 7 and completed (up: 7♥).
- Pot before this street: 0.3 small bets (the antes).
- Pot size and the numbers: the solver groups pots by size: its numbers here are averages over every pot of up to 1.5 small bets at this point, so in exactly this pot they would be a little different.
The solver's numbers
| Play | How often (strategy) | Worth from here on (EV estimate, small bets) |
|---|---|---|
| Fold | 59.7% | +0.00 |
| Call | 35.1% | +0.03 |
| Re-raise | 5.3% | +0.19 |
Measured on 5,451 play-outs of this situation. The highlighted row is the play that measured best.
Why, in plain words
Re-raise is worth about 0.15 small bets more than call on average from here on: putting more chips in now pays with this hand.
Note: the solver's strategy folds most often (60%), but in the measured play-outs re-raise came out ahead by 0.19 small bets. Training and measuring are separate estimates, so treat that gap as uncertain.
What popular strategy articles say
Defend your bring-in liberally; the completer often has little.
What strategy articles found by web search said on 2026-10-08 (PokerNews, Card Player, PokerStrategy, pokerskill and similar; mostly written between about 2007 and 2015, and mostly for full-ring games with several players in the pot).
Heads-up, the solver only partly agrees: its main play is fold (60%), but it also chooses call or re-raise 40% of the time.
Measured value from here on: fold +0.00 small bets, re-raise +0.19.
Heads-up vs multiway
The numbers above are for heads-up play (two players). Most published advice is written for full-ring games with several players in the pot, so part of any difference can come from that.
We also looked up a 3-handed version (the 7 completes and a third player showing a Queen calls before it is back to you) in PokerToast's 3-handed solver, but it has not measured that spot often enough, so this page makes no claim about multiway pots.
How these numbers were made
From PokerToast's own heads-up limit Razz solver, trained 3,690,500 iterations, exported 2026-10-05 09:56:29, 35,165 situations (version R-3690500-20261005095629). It learned by self-play (Monte Carlo counterfactual regret minimization) for limit betting, at most four bets a street.
- How often is the solver's average strategy for this situation.
- Worth (EV) is an estimate measured after training by playing the situation out many times against the solver's own strategy: small bets won or lost from this decision on, compared with folding (0). It assumes an opponent who plays like the solver.
- Hand groups: the solver groups similar hands, so the numbers are for the group (here:
0|D281|07|S|ib), not only these exact cards. For each decision it looks at the street; your hand (a made 8-or-better low and how good it is, or how many cards you have toward an 8-low and how many of the low cards you need your opponent already shows); your opponent's board (how many high cards, "bricks", and their highest low card); the size of the pot; and the betting so far on this street. - Stakes: ante 0.15 small bets per player, bring-in 0.25, a completion or bet on 3rd and 4th street is 1 small bet, 2 from 5th street.
- Looked up when this page was built (2026-10-19); a newly trained solver changes the page and its version number.
Practice it
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Part of: Razz 3rd street: completing, stealing and defending the bring-in
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