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In Razz, should I complete 8-6-3 against a King bring-in?
Heads-up, PokerToast's limit Razz solver completes with 8-6-3 against a King bring-in 96% of the time.
The spot
- Game: heads-up limit Razz, 3rd street.
- You: (6♠ 3♦) 8♣ (down cards in brackets): three cards to an 8-low (8-6-3), with 6-3 in the hole and the 8 showing.
- Your opponent: shows a King and brought in (up: K♥).
- Pot before this street: 0.3 small bets (the antes).
- Pot size and the numbers: the solver groups pots by size: its numbers here are averages over every pot of up to 1.5 small bets at this point, so in exactly this pot they would be a little different.
The solver's numbers
| Play | How often (strategy) | Worth from here on (EV estimate, small bets) |
|---|---|---|
| Complete | 96.4% | +0.69 |
| Call the bring-in | 3.6% | +0.64 |
| Fold | 0.0% | +0.00 |
Measured on 33,634 play-outs of this situation. The highlighted row is the play that measured best.
Why, in plain words
Complete and call the bring-in are worth about the same here (0.05 small bets apart, within the measuring noise of about 0.10), so neither is a real mistake; the solver's usual choice is to complete (96%).
One limit of the model: here, when you just call, the street ends; under real rules the bring-in could still complete. That makes calling look a little better than it is, so where calling and completing are close, completing is at least as good.
What popular strategy articles say
Complete: it is the standard play.
What AI search answers said when we asked this question on 2026-10-08. They cited strategy articles written mostly between about 2007 and 2013, and most of that advice is for full-ring games with several players in the pot.
Heads-up, the solver agrees: its main play is complete (96%).
Heads-up vs multiway
The numbers above are for heads-up play (two players). Most published advice is written for full-ring games with several players in the pot, so part of any difference can come from that.
3-handed (the bring-in shows a King and a third player showing a Queen is still to act behind you), PokerToast's 3-handed solver completes 93% of the time. So the heads-up answer holds with three players.
| Play | How often (strategy) | Worth from here on (EV estimate, small bets) |
|---|---|---|
| Complete | 92.7% | +0.83 |
| Call the bring-in | 7.3% | +0.90 |
| Fold | 0.0% | +0.00 |
From the 3-handed limit Razz solver, trained 25,358,751 iterations, exported 2026-10-05 18:07:23, 172,805 situations (version R33-25358751-20261005180723); measured on 3,446 play-outs.
How these numbers were made
From PokerToast's own heads-up limit Razz solver, trained 3,690,500 iterations, exported 2026-10-05 09:56:29, 35,165 situations (version R-3690500-20261005095629). It learned by self-play (Monte Carlo counterfactual regret minimization) for limit betting, at most four bets a street.
- How often is the solver's average strategy for this situation.
- Worth (EV) is an estimate measured after training by playing the situation out many times against the solver's own strategy: small bets won or lost from this decision on, compared with folding (0). It assumes an opponent who plays like the solver.
- Hand groups: the solver groups similar hands, so the numbers are for the group (here:
0|D380|1-|S|i), not only these exact cards. For each decision it looks at the street; your hand (a made 8-or-better low and how good it is, or how many cards you have toward an 8-low and how many of the low cards you need your opponent already shows); your opponent's board (how many high cards, "bricks", and their highest low card); the size of the pot; and the betting so far on this street. - Stakes: ante 0.15 small bets per player, bring-in 0.25, a completion or bet on 3rd and 4th street is 1 small bet, 2 from 5th street.
- Looked up when this page was built (2026-10-19); a newly trained solver changes the page and its version number.
Practice it
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Part of: Razz 3rd street: completing, stealing and defending the bring-in
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