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In Stud 8, should I complete with three low straight cards and no Ace (3-4-5) against a deuce bring-in?
Heads-up, PokerToast's limit Stud 8 solver completes with 3-4-5 against a deuce bring-in 99.8% of the time.
The spot
- Game: heads-up limit Stud 8, 3rd street.
- You: (3♠ 4♦) 5♣ (down cards in brackets): 3-4-5 of mixed suits: three low cards to a straight, no Ace, no flush draw.
- Your opponent: shows a 2 and brought in (up: 2♥).
- Pot before this street: 0.3 small bets (the antes).
- Pot size and the numbers: the solver groups pots by size: its numbers here are averages over every pot of up to 1.5 small bets at this point, so in exactly this pot they would be a little different.
The solver's numbers
| Play | How often (strategy) | Worth from here on (EV estimate, small bets) |
|---|---|---|
| Complete | 99.8% | +0.43 |
| Call the bring-in | 0.1% | +0.31 |
| Fold | 0.1% | +0.00 |
Measured on 3,371 play-outs of this situation. The highlighted row is the play that measured best.
Why, in plain words
Complete and call the bring-in are worth about the same here (0.12 small bets apart, within the measuring noise of about 0.16), so neither is a real mistake; the solver's usual choice is to complete (99.8%).
One limit of the model: here, when you just call, the street ends; under real rules the bring-in could still complete. That makes calling look a little better than it is, so where calling and completing are close, completing is at least as good.
What popular strategy articles say
Three low straight cards such as 3-4-5, 4-5-6 or 5-6-7 are strong scooping starters.
What strategy articles found by web search said on 2026-10-08 (PokerNews, Card Player, PokerStrategy, pokerskill and similar; mostly written between about 2007 and 2015, and mostly for full-ring games with several players in the pot).
Heads-up, the solver agrees: its main play is complete (99.8%).
Heads-up vs multiway
The numbers above are for heads-up play (two players). Most published advice is written for full-ring games with several players in the pot, so part of any difference can come from that.
We also looked up a 3-handed version (the bring-in shows a 2 and a third player showing a King is still to act behind you) in PokerToast's 3-handed solver, but its numbers there are not settled (its most frequent play is not the one that measured best), so this page makes no claim about multiway pots.
How these numbers were made
From PokerToast's own heads-up limit Stud 8 solver, trained 7,862,000 iterations, exported 2026-10-05 09:56:29, 47,383 situations (version E-7862000-20261005095629). It learned by self-play (Monte Carlo counterfactual regret minimization) for limit betting, at most four bets a street.
- How often is the solver's average strategy for this situation.
- Worth (EV) is an estimate measured after training by playing the situation out many times against the solver's own strategy: small bets won or lost from this decision on, compared with folding (0). It assumes an opponent who plays like the solver.
- Hand groups: the solver groups similar hands, so the numbers are for the group (here:
0|N/D3a1|-0|S|i), not only these exact cards. For each decision it looks at the street; your high hand (and flush draw); your low (made, or how many low cards you have and how many of the ones you need are dead); your opponent's board (a pair or an ace showing, and how many high cards they have for the low); the pot; and the betting so far on this street. - Stakes: ante 0.15 small bets per player, bring-in 0.25, a completion or bet on 3rd and 4th street is 1 small bet, 2 from 5th street.
- Looked up when this page was built (2026-10-19); a newly trained solver changes the page and its version number.
Practice it
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