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In Stud 8, should I play three high cards like K-Q-J (against a deuce bring-in)?

Heads-up, PokerToast's limit Stud 8 solver folds with K-Q-J against a deuce bring-in 77% of the time, and just calls the bring-in 22%.

The spot

The solver's numbers

The solver's answer
PlayHow often (strategy)Worth from here on (EV estimate, small bets)
Fold77.2%+0.00
Call the bring-in22.2%+0.02
Complete0.6%−0.30

Measured on 25,742 play-outs of this situation. The highlighted row is the play that measured best.

Why, in plain words

Call the bring-in and fold are worth about the same here (0.02 small bets apart, within the measuring noise of about 0.10), so neither is a real mistake; mixing them keeps you hard to read.

One limit of the model: here, when you just call, the street ends; under real rules the bring-in could still complete. That makes calling look a little better than it is, so where calling and completing are close, completing is at least as good.

What popular strategy articles say

Usually fold.

What AI search answers said when we asked this question on 2026-10-08. They cited strategy articles written mostly between about 2007 and 2013, and most of that advice is for full-ring games with several players in the pot.

Heads-up, the solver agrees: its main play is fold (77%).

But it also just calls the bring-in 22% of the time, at about the same value, which the common advice doesn't mention.

Heads-up vs multiway

The numbers above are for heads-up play (two players). Most published advice is written for full-ring games with several players in the pot, so part of any difference can come from that.

3-handed (the bring-in shows a 2 and a third player showing a 9 is still to act behind you), PokerToast's 3-handed solver folds 100.0% of the time. So the heads-up answer holds with three players.

3-handed solver
PlayHow often (strategy)Worth from here on (EV estimate, small bets)
Fold100.0%+0.00
Call the bring-in0.0%−0.35
Complete0.0%−0.89

From the 3-handed limit Stud 8 solver, trained 17,428,140 iterations, exported 2026-10-06 07:08:16, 301,198 situations (version E33-17428140-20261006070816); measured on 2,328 play-outs.

How these numbers were made

From PokerToast's own heads-up limit Stud 8 solver, trained 7,862,000 iterations, exported 2026-10-05 09:56:29, 47,383 situations (version E-7862000-20261005095629). It learned by self-play (Monte Carlo counterfactual regret minimization) for limit betting, at most four bets a street.

Practice it

Part of: Stud 8 3rd street: which starting hands to complete

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